editing your mixes...yah or nah?? - DJ Forums - DJ Passion

fil devious · #1 6th May 2006, 19:30

does anyone ever edit say a final mix that they've done with soundforge or summat? personally i never have & feel that this is cheating in a way, anyone can do a mix really & play about with the final product to make it sound better or edit bits out(mistakes). whats your views on this subject?

Reece Duncan · #2 6th May 2006, 20:29

hey m8 im assumin ur talkin about DJ mixes not mixes of production tracks. Personally i dont edit a mix i like to do it live and for it to have that live feel. If i was doin say a pro mix like a fabric live cd or summet then i may do slight editing if mixes wer slightly out but if it required major work id just do the whole mix again till it was perfect.

Stylus · #3 6th May 2006, 20:44

I edited one of mine when the record jumped quite badly once, figured it wasn't my fault so it was ok - say a lorry goes past or something and jogs yer decks etc. etc.

It's actually quite hard to "edit" a mix on computer, usually it sounds better when you just do it straight off the decks.....

tOM · #4 7th May 2006, 00:16

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Originally Posted by fil devious

does anyone ever edit say a final mix that they've done with soundforge or summat? personally i never have & feel that this is cheating in a way, anyone can do a mix really & play about with the final product to make it sound better or edit bits out(mistakes). whats your views on this subject?

have never thought about before, if it's a promo mix seems a bit dishonest to me.

Karlos · #5 7th May 2006, 01:25

I dont think you should - creating a "edited" mix is cheating imo, so what if your mix went out for a few seconds - at least if your sending it to a promoter etc your gonna show that its unique

Chris Powell · #6 7th May 2006, 01:43

Agreed! Some DJ's can mix real well. However, I've heard a few DJ's who sometimes bring in a mix wrong and can't seem to recover the mix = it starts trainwrecking. Being able to recover the mix is another skill the DJ must try and master, as every DJ will have times where the mix they had cued just didn't go right once brought in...

Surely promoters don't mind your mix going out for a few seconds just as long as you can recover it

tOM · #7 7th May 2006, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Powell

Agreed! Some DJ's can mix real well. However, I've heard a few DJ's who sometimes bring in a mix wrong and can't seem to recover the mix = it starts trainwrecking. Being able to recover the mix is another skill the DJ must try and master, as every DJ will have times where the mix they had cued just didn't go right once brought in...

Surely promoters don't mind your mix going out for a few seconds just as long as you can recover it

i guess it's good to hear that a dj can recover a mix, especially as a promoter. can you imagine booking someone who sounded perfect on cd but started sounding like a pile up on the m6 as soon as their first mix started going out?!

i don't know if i'd like to hear a 'perfect' mix, i think it'd lose some of it's live feel.

Also it's nice to see and hear dj's you respect have little wobbles now and then bcause lets face it who doesn't? just cause they're pro dj's doesn't stop them being human. it's nice to hear dj's having to work the decks

James Beaton · #8 7th May 2006, 17:36

I use Soundforge to map eq levels to 0db, or sometimes i might have to cut out the bit at the start where you would hear the record starting up but thats all.

Chris Powell · #9 7th May 2006, 18:02

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Originally Posted by tOM

i guess it's good to hear that a dj can recover a mix, especially as a promoter. can you imagine booking someone who sounded perfect on cd but started sounding like a pile up on the m6 as soon as their first mix started going out?!

i don't know if i'd like to hear a 'perfect' mix, i think it'd lose some of it's live feel.

Also it's nice to see and hear dj's you respect have little wobbles now and then bcause lets face it who doesn't? just cause they're pro dj's doesn't stop them being human. it's nice to hear dj's having to work the decks

I'm with ya totally on that one

Nice post!

tOM · #10 7th May 2006, 20:53

cheers

Tyronnster · #11 9th May 2006, 11:30

Nah I never edit my mix,

I want my mix to be as real as possible if any editing would only be to split tracks

fil devious · #12 10th May 2006, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Tyronnster

Nah I never edit my mix,

I want my mix to be as real as possible if any editing would only be to split tracks

same as mate

Dave McRave · #13 4th July 2006, 00:12

I only ever remove the silence at the start of the mix...and maybe if i have crackles and pops in old/poor condition records i will zoom in on the wave and remove the millisecond pop/click etc.

Reece Duncan · #14 4th July 2006, 14:44

Seems we all have the same opinions. Only minimal editing allowed lol. Anything else is cheating. When DJmag released the Tiesto mix CD a while back after he was crowned No. 1 DJ a couple of years back, i was listening to the cd enjoying the great choice of tunes whilst reading the mag when i stubled accross some horrifying news. Tiesto had nothing to do with the production of the mix, infact he was on the on tour on the other side of the world. All he did was pick the tracks which were then given to a bloke who digitally mixed them on computer in a recording studio, makes you wonder how many mix cd's are actually "mixed". Probably not alot.....

Dave McRave · #15 5th July 2006, 00:09

Im assuming most upfront mixes sold in shops etc are digitally mixed.The majority of joe public dont listen to it for there mixing mainly the productions them selves imo.

Its sweet when you hear a on the fly mix though,you know when the dj has put his heart into a mix....you can sorta just tell.

(did that make sense to anybody??)

Karlos · #16 5th July 2006, 01:54

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Originally Posted by DJ Reece

Seems we all have the same opinions. Only minimal editing allowed lol. Anything else is cheating. When DJmag released the Tiesto mix CD a while back after he was crowned No. 1 DJ a couple of years back, i was listening to the cd enjoying the great choice of tunes whilst reading the mag when i stubled accross some horrifying news. Tiesto had nothing to do with the production of the mix, infact he was on the on tour on the other side of the world. All he did was pick the tracks which were then given to a bloke who digitally mixed them on computer in a recording studio, makes you wonder how many mix cd's are actually "mixed". Probably not alot.....

Id believe that, with his big name status he has.

James Beaton · #17 5th July 2006, 08:48

They have been doing this for years, the Euphoria series, Clubber Guide series, crappy MOS series and so on, none of them are actually mixed by the DJ they claim to be mixed by.

Its all in the small print if you look.

Reece Duncan · #18 6th July 2006, 10:52

Yeah. I didn't mean to sound like i was shocked by this lol. But its a shame, whats the point if a DJ has had nothing to do with the mix, just about making money.

fil devious · #19 7th July 2006, 18:26

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Originally Posted by DJ Reece

Yeah. I didn't mean to sound like i was shocked by this lol. But its a shame, whats the point if a DJ has had nothing to do with the mix, just about making money.

yeah man innit

Music is the Soundtrack to your Life · #20 21st July 2006, 10:11

hey guys, i recently edited some of the outtro out of the last song on my mix purely cos it wouldnt fit on a cd other wise... does that count hehe.

some peeps hv mentioned sound forge as an editing tool, can u use this for post production? i dont think thats cheating, all mixes proffesionally released are put throiugh post production where they play with the levels to make sure the sound is perfect. id be interested to learn how to do that.

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