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[Enrique]

Hi everybody Im posting this thread about FL cause i could need some advice if u have any
Im making trance and progressive music with FL6-7 and my proble is that when creating my melodies my kick gets lost. im working on the sounds so they are not loud but the kick still does not sounds like the begining when it stands with a base line.

[tOM]

i don't use fruity loops so i can't give you specific advice but...

it sounds to me like your bass is cancelling out your kick drums a bit. As far as i know there are two good ways round this:

a) program your bassline so that it is not playing at the same time as the kick. i.e. fill the spaces between kicks with bass but don't have them both happening at the same time allowing the kick to stand out in the mix

or

b) compress your bassline and sidechain it to the kick drum. This will cause your bassline to duck when the kick plays and should have the desirable effect

It's also worth playing around with different kick drums to see what goes well with your bassline and what doesn't

good luck

[tOM]

sorry mis read your post a bit and can't seem to edit my original

if it's not the bassline causing the problem but the other parts i can only suggest a few vague things

make sure you leave space in the mix for the kicks - it's best not to have too many sounds playing at once over the top of your kick

eq your kick (and the other parts) properly - this will reduce the chance of waveforms cancelling each other out

try out different kicks and see what suits the tune

play with compression

try just building a loop from scratch and identifying what parts are causing the problems then play around with them and see if you can find a solution, neccessity is the mother of invention

[Enrique]

thnx dude for your help...

Trust me i tried these things but last night i think i found out whats the problem.. I pimp my melodies so much that with tha base line together are very strong so thw kick gets lost....
Something else... can u tell me how to organise my sounds like the base and the melody? cause they dont sound like the producers music. mine sounds lika fake
I try to settle base to be a sub sound and the melody to be as a sourround one but nothing...

once again thnx dude

[Liquid Vision]

I had this problem before, basically there were so many other things that was weakening the sound of the kick, so when it came to a breakdown with just the kick and the bass the kick was so strong it was distorting the bass.

If you start off with a good kick, i've found that if you use another less powerful sounding kick and put both of them together, using only a small amount of compression on the more powerful kick it provides a good strong hard kick and hopefully it will stay the same all the way through.

Play around with it

[Enrique]

Ok i'll keep that in mind then m8 thank you all for helping me

for any other things you can ask me also xept the kicks

[Liquid Vision]

Originally Posted by Enrique

Ok i'll keep that in mind then m8 thank you all for helping me

for any other things you can ask me also xept the kicks

No problem

Haha wicked

[Scotty]

yep sounds like the low end on your melody is too strong.

Use the parametric EQ to roll off the low end....for EVERYTHING!

Don't do it so much for the kick and bass though for obvious reasons, you should roll off everything at around 30-50 hz for those, but nothing much higher than that or you'll weaken them.

You can also try using the free filter, set it to a low shelf, turn the gain down to -18db and move the cutoff to about 150hz. This will leave room for the kick and bass to sit nice and snugly in the mix, whilst leaving your melody nice and strong upfront.